Comments on: recalcitrant paul vs. planet janet http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/ researching citizen journalism Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:53:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: gatewatching - » Blair vs. Ellis http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-634 gatewatching - » Blair vs. Ellis Thu, 08 May 2008 02:32:44 +0000 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-634 [...] could end up rivalling the Keating/Albrechtsen stoush. The reason it’s of interest to Gatewatching is the way it’s played out over on- and [...] [...] could end up rivalling the Keating/Albrechtsen stoush. The reason it’s of interest to Gatewatching is the way it’s played out over on- and [...]

]]> By: gatewatching » Blog Archive » Outsiders - 2nd March 2008 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-298 gatewatching » Blog Archive » Outsiders - 2nd March 2008 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:24:50 +0000 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-298 [...] Clash of the Titans: The Paul Keating/Janet Albrechtsen bout provided bloggers with something juicy to talk about last week, and showed how blog-style snark is the new black. We’ll keep track of its percolation throughout the blogosphere in updates to our earlier post. [...] [...] Clash of the Titans: The Paul Keating/Janet Albrechtsen bout provided bloggers with something juicy to talk about last week, and showed how blog-style snark is the new black. We’ll keep track of its percolation throughout the blogosphere in updates to our earlier post. [...]

]]> By: jason http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-294 jason Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:05:07 +0000 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-294 You're right, about Keating's self-assurance Ken - I've yet to hear Keating confess to a mistake since he left office, or indeed ever. (The closest he's ever come, I think, was having a go now and then at the Whitlam Government's economic performance, the self-same government in which he was briefly a Minister. But mainly that was about asserting the Hawke/Keating Governments' preeminence as economic managers). The inability to concede error one of the traits he shares with his successor, along with a deeply tribal attachment to his own side of politics. I think that Kevin's learned enough from Peter Beattie to know that apologising early and often is a good strategy for keeping the electorate on side. Is it justified? I've thought about it and... it's really difficult to take any of it at all seriously. It's a bit like a Punch and Judy show. I suspect Keating's actually given up on posterity, and figures that the Labor victory is his cue to let loose on anyone who's annoyed him over the last decade. No one expects the Labor leader to answer for him any more, so it's game on. Albrechtsen is nothing if not a provocateur, so she can hardly complain. And it is interesting to see a former PM write something so, um, engaged. I'm inclined to bust out the popcorn! You’re right, about Keating’s self-assurance Ken - I’ve yet to hear Keating confess to a mistake since he left office, or indeed ever. (The closest he’s ever come, I think, was having a go now and then at the Whitlam Government’s economic performance, the self-same government in which he was briefly a Minister. But mainly that was about asserting the Hawke/Keating Governments’ preeminence as economic managers). The inability to concede error one of the traits he shares with his successor, along with a deeply tribal attachment to his own side of politics. I think that Kevin’s learned enough from Peter Beattie to know that apologising early and often is a good strategy for keeping the electorate on side.

Is it justified? I’ve thought about it and… it’s really difficult to take any of it at all seriously. It’s a bit like a Punch and Judy show. I suspect Keating’s actually given up on posterity, and figures that the Labor victory is his cue to let loose on anyone who’s annoyed him over the last decade. No one expects the Labor leader to answer for him any more, so it’s game on.

Albrechtsen is nothing if not a provocateur, so she can hardly complain. And it is interesting to see a former PM write something so, um, engaged. I’m inclined to bust out the popcorn!

]]> By: Ken Parish http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-293 Ken Parish Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:16:40 +0000 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-293 It would also no doubt contain a beautiful set of numbers and be L-A-W law because it was in PJK's B-L-O-G blog. Does Albrechtsen's unashamed Tory nonsense redeem/excuse Keating's self-obsessed determination to secure his place in posterity at any cost? Does PJK actually admit that he ever misjudged anything at all during his political career, except perhaps Bob Hawke's willingness to hand over the leadership? It would also no doubt contain a beautiful set of numbers and be L-A-W law because it was in PJK’s B-L-O-G blog. Does Albrechtsen’s unashamed Tory nonsense redeem/excuse Keating’s self-obsessed determination to secure his place in posterity at any cost? Does PJK actually admit that he ever misjudged anything at all during his political career, except perhaps Bob Hawke’s willingness to hand over the leadership?

]]> By: barry http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-292 barry Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:02:39 +0000 http://gatewatching.org/2008/02/29/recalcitrant-paul-vs-planet-janet/#comment-292 unrepresentative swill - the blog we had to have. unrepresentative swill - the blog we had to have.

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